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Hey Chief,
I'm new to FN but stumbled on to your site and share your love for "german" beer and the fire service. I noted that you have a background in hazmat and was wondering if I could ask you questions regarding decon. Stay safe, Mike
Hey Rich, Thanks for getting back to me. First off, you need to know that I've been involved with hazmat since the beginning of all this in the early 80's. My background before the fire service was chem/bio/geology in college and then over 10 years as a mobile intensive care paramedic. So then I get into the fire service and have a chance to make the switch between being a fire medic to a hazmat guy. The program was new and I ended up being the 1st guy from my county to go to the national fire academies hazmat technician program. It gave me the edge to get involved with authoring and teaching the California State Hazmat Tech series for years. So, I've been doing hazmat responses for a long time now. Couple this with the COBRA training, which was pretty damn good. Methodical way to run a training program... The other pertinent "hazmat related" training was the Nevada radiological response training held out in Mercury, Nevada. I've even had the chance to work with the National Guard to look and do what they have developed.
Ok... now your wondering just what I could want to know from you for "non-ambulatory" folks when I've got this kind of background... Well Rich, what's missing from the formula here is not how to set up decon shelters, showers, roller systems, hose lines and weather stations but instead develop a systematic way to accept the patient, strip and flip them and begin immediate patient assessment and protection. The pearls I'm looking for are things like having a ton of particulate masks for victims to immediately donn, storing Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo because it works really well when decontaminating pepper spray out of prisoners eyes so maybe it would work equally as well for WMD victims? I've been to a bunch of drills over the years but want to get input from folks who have actually dealt with a large number of chemical / hazmat victims that required immediate intervention.
Maybe your background might lend itself toward helping me discover and document more specifics when handling non-ambulatory decon... : )
Ah Marquette... I was there and it was COLD and snowing. Everyone I met there was really nice. I spent four days there teaching the hospital staff how to deal with receiving and treating contaminated patients. The course is called Hospital Hazmat and I've been teaching it nationally as well as other courses for years now.
Here's some questions: 1. Do you use trashbag decon procedures for all of your engine companies? 2. Does your department / county / state support Tox Medics, i.e. your hazmat or BC transporting a box that contains antidotes that are used by fire medics who are hazmat trained to rescue the rescuers. 3. Do you use any special acronyms for dealing with hazmat or WMD incidents?
Finally, let me know if this is too long winded. Maybe not cool for a public forum but I was thinking what better place to share new ideas or confirm that what we think are new ideas are actually things that another department has been doing for years.
FireCat
Please be SAFE!
Cat :-)
Apr 26, 2008
Jim aka Bick
Apr 27, 2008
Joel
Apr 27, 2008
Devil Witch
Apr 28, 2008
FireCat
Please be SAFE!
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Apr 28, 2008
Jerry Moore
Apr 30, 2008
FireCat
May 9, 2008
FireCat
Don't worry we will have The Cup again soon!
May 10, 2008
Mike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retd
I'm new to FN but stumbled on to your site and share your love for "german" beer and the fire service. I noted that you have a background in hazmat and was wondering if I could ask you questions regarding decon. Stay safe, Mike
May 28, 2008
Teia Kenyon
May 31, 2008
Mike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retd
Ok... now your wondering just what I could want to know from you for "non-ambulatory" folks when I've got this kind of background... Well Rich, what's missing from the formula here is not how to set up decon shelters, showers, roller systems, hose lines and weather stations but instead develop a systematic way to accept the patient, strip and flip them and begin immediate patient assessment and protection. The pearls I'm looking for are things like having a ton of particulate masks for victims to immediately donn, storing Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo because it works really well when decontaminating pepper spray out of prisoners eyes so maybe it would work equally as well for WMD victims? I've been to a bunch of drills over the years but want to get input from folks who have actually dealt with a large number of chemical / hazmat victims that required immediate intervention.
Maybe your background might lend itself toward helping me discover and document more specifics when handling non-ambulatory decon... : )
Ah Marquette... I was there and it was COLD and snowing. Everyone I met there was really nice. I spent four days there teaching the hospital staff how to deal with receiving and treating contaminated patients. The course is called Hospital Hazmat and I've been teaching it nationally as well as other courses for years now.
Here's some questions: 1. Do you use trashbag decon procedures for all of your engine companies? 2. Does your department / county / state support Tox Medics, i.e. your hazmat or BC transporting a box that contains antidotes that are used by fire medics who are hazmat trained to rescue the rescuers. 3. Do you use any special acronyms for dealing with hazmat or WMD incidents?
Finally, let me know if this is too long winded. Maybe not cool for a public forum but I was thinking what better place to share new ideas or confirm that what we think are new ideas are actually things that another department has been doing for years.
May 31, 2008
Art Sutherland
Art
Jun 1, 2008
Richard A. Bradley
Jun 4, 2008
Jason
Aug 2, 2008
Jason
Aug 6, 2008
Richard A. Bradley
Aug 11, 2008
lloyd
Oct 7, 2008
Brent R. Haskin
Dec 10, 2008
Bruce DeKam
Dec 11, 2008