Fire Investigators

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Fire Department arson investigators with arrest powers.

Various agencies in our state are looking at getting police arrest powers for their fire department fire/arson investigators.  As I am a police officer with my fire department, they are asking me how to obtain this authority.  I think we'll need legislation from the statehouse in order to handle this completely and thoroughly, but my question to all of you is, how does your state handle this?  Many municipal police departments and county sheriff's departments don't have the time or expertise to handle arson fires, and they're not interested.  We need this crime to be handled by people who understand the chemistry of fire, building construction and the other stuff we train on in the fire service.  So with that said, are there states out there who have legislation that allows a fire department to authorize this, and if so how can I get a copy of your statute?  One item to mention is that our State Fire Marshal is not a law enforcement agency; they are a regulatory agency only, so that is not a route we can take at this time.   I know in Georgia there are a couple of dozen municipal departments who's city council has issued an executive order authorizing their arson investigation units as police agencies.  We don't have any legislation that allows an executive order, but we may have to look at something like this.  Any/all suggestions gratefully received.  Thanks, and be safe.

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    Oldman

    In Texas, with few exception, only a licensed peace officer may make an arrest. An arson investigator by state law, must be licensed by the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education,  and also hold a commission by the Texas Commission on Fire Protection.
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    Jeff Allen

    I understand that many but not all Fire Marshals in Texas also complete the full police academy.  Any idea what percentage of them are or are not police officers?
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    Russ

    years ago my sheriff offered to put members of our arson task force through the police academy to become certified as reserve LEO's by the state of florida. it was a good plan until the fire chiefs got wind of it and put the nixie on it because they didnt like the idea of "their" fire investigators walking around with guns which i found out sometime later to mean that they were jealous of the dual status we would have have (politics-sigh). at the time i thought it was agreat idea and the course was informative. investigators having arrest powers is a local issue but i support the idea