A place where instructors, officers and firefighters can discuss the issues and problems facing today's firefighters as they respond to incidents and how to train for these new hazards.
Great group idea - I agree. Chris and I were just discussing this a few days ago. What does everyone need training on? There are often many ways to approach a topic.
So I few things that have been on my mind of late related to training... and I would like some discussion moving on these matters.
* Rapid search and rescue - then exit the building to ONLY fight it exterior... ESPECIALLY how does everyones role change or stay the same... AND how is timing different... and decisions different...
* Excessive # of FFs failing through floors and roofs.
* Interior vs Exterior - decisions which lead to both
* LODD - where are the decision errors which increase these?
* On scene timing and communication - after injuries/deaths, I keep hearing "well I knew about X Y Z, I don't why the Chief or officers didn't"
* Ego in the fire service
* Electricity Management - I personally saw multiple groups of FFs get electricuted on tin roofs, etc. because they "thought" the electricity was off/disconnected - OR they did not want to wait for the power company to fight the fire
Hey Tom - I have more things I want to know too... hee hee... so glad I could jump on your band wagon... since I have seen some of your training developments - I think this is a great group.
Michael - glad you got my invite to join Tom's group. I just threw out some ideas in the mix. I am a lowly cog in the system... But many people on here have great ideas... So I am going to watch and learn more than speak in this group... but you should bring in your knowledge as well...
I can't wait... I am so excited... by this learnin approach...
My district - Fire/Ems is wrapped together - and everyone goes to everything - thus the spin on my comments. But maybe Tom wanted to focus this on Fire Only, not sure?
Hey I thought of some more training things, I want some discussion on.
* School emergencies - lock downs, knife fights, school shootings - difference management of a elementary vs. high vs university.
* Animal management / awareness - at fires and medical emergencies
One of my officers killed a german shepard when he entered a home for a man down, and the german shepard attacked him as he started CPR - my officer punched the dog in the chest as he threw the dog off him - but where he caught the dog was in the solar plexis region which caused the dog's heart to stop. Then we were doing CPR on the dog and the man - sadly both died. My officer was devasted - feeling as though he addressed the dog attacking him too roughly - and he failed to secure the scene before starting patient care.
Heather, I'm fire with going with borth Fire/EMS. Medical calls is something fire departments are responding to more & more of. Can see you've been busy and putting some serious thought into things here.
* Multiple structures on fire - same scene... Managing each fire... individually and collectively...
which of course brings up
* Managing exposure to other structures
* Managing truck / equipment placement
I remember at a furniture store fire (the size of a football field) 50% involved - the heat was so hot from the fire - the paint was peeled off several of the trucks on scene.
* Driver safety
* PARKING management - negotiating shoulders, soft ground, and other questionable locations
taking an extra 5-10 minutes to properly place trucks / layout the scene structure - may save A LOT of problems - who is in charge of this - how are decisions made individually and collectively on truck placement
Fabulous Heather Days of Summer
So I few things that have been on my mind of late related to training... and I would like some discussion moving on these matters.
* Rapid search and rescue - then exit the building to ONLY fight it exterior... ESPECIALLY how does everyones role change or stay the same... AND how is timing different... and decisions different...
* Excessive # of FFs failing through floors and roofs.
* Interior vs Exterior - decisions which lead to both
* LODD - where are the decision errors which increase these?
* On scene timing and communication - after injuries/deaths, I keep hearing "well I knew about X Y Z, I don't why the Chief or officers didn't"
* Ego in the fire service
* Electricity Management - I personally saw multiple groups of FFs get electricuted on tin roofs, etc. because they "thought" the electricity was off/disconnected - OR they did not want to wait for the power company to fight the fire
and finally...
* Lost lost art (for many) of Sounding the Floor
Jan 31, 2011
Tom Williams
Feb 1, 2011
Michael Meadows
Feb 1, 2011
Fabulous Heather Days of Summer
Michael - glad you got my invite to join Tom's group. I just threw out some ideas in the mix. I am a lowly cog in the system... But many people on here have great ideas... So I am going to watch and learn more than speak in this group... but you should bring in your knowledge as well...
I can't wait... I am so excited... by this learnin approach...
Feb 1, 2011
Fabulous Heather Days of Summer
Hey I thought of some more training things, I want some discussion on.
* School emergencies - lock downs, knife fights, school shootings - difference management of a elementary vs. high vs university.
* Scene safety for psychiatric emergencies
* Suicide/Attempted Suicide
* Mental Illness / psychiatric emergency treatment
* Arsonists
* (Non-injured) Victim management at fire scenes
* Animal management / awareness - at fires and medical emergencies
One of my officers killed a german shepard when he entered a home for a man down, and the german shepard attacked him as he started CPR - my officer punched the dog in the chest as he threw the dog off him - but where he caught the dog was in the solar plexis region which caused the dog's heart to stop. Then we were doing CPR on the dog and the man - sadly both died. My officer was devasted - feeling as though he addressed the dog attacking him too roughly - and he failed to secure the scene before starting patient care.
Feb 1, 2011
Tom Williams
Jump on in and open up some discussions.
Feb 1, 2011
Fabulous Heather Days of Summer
* Multiple structures on fire - same scene... Managing each fire... individually and collectively...
which of course brings up
* Managing exposure to other structures
* Managing truck / equipment placement
I remember at a furniture store fire (the size of a football field) 50% involved - the heat was so hot from the fire - the paint was peeled off several of the trucks on scene.
* Driver safety
* PARKING management - negotiating shoulders, soft ground, and other questionable locations
taking an extra 5-10 minutes to properly place trucks / layout the scene structure - may save A LOT of problems - who is in charge of this - how are decisions made individually and collectively on truck placement
Feb 1, 2011
Fabulous Heather Days of Summer
Feb 1, 2011
Firewriter
Feb 15, 2011