Today's Trainers

A place where instructors, officers and firefighters can discuss the issues and problems facing today's firefighters as they respond to incidents and how to train for these new hazards.
  • Fabulous Heather Days of Summer

    Great group idea - I agree. Chris and I were just discussing this a few days ago. What does everyone need training on? There are often many ways to approach a topic.

    So I few things that have been on my mind of late related to training... and I would like some discussion moving on these matters.

    * Rapid search and rescue - then exit the building to ONLY fight it exterior... ESPECIALLY how does everyones role change or stay the same... AND how is timing different... and decisions different...

    * Excessive # of FFs failing through floors and roofs.

    * Interior vs Exterior - decisions which lead to both

    * LODD - where are the decision errors which increase these?

    * On scene timing and communication - after injuries/deaths, I keep hearing "well I knew about X Y Z, I don't why the Chief or officers didn't"

    * Ego in the fire service

    * Electricity Management - I personally saw multiple groups of FFs get electricuted on tin roofs, etc. because they "thought" the electricity was off/disconnected - OR they did not want to wait for the power company to fight the fire

    and finally...

    * Lost lost art (for many) of Sounding the Floor
  • Tom Williams

    Some really good thoughts there Heather, let's run with a few of them.
  • Michael Meadows

    Excellent group to start Heather looking forward to learning from this.
  • Fabulous Heather Days of Summer

    Hey Tom - I have more things I want to know too... hee hee... so glad I could jump on your band wagon... since I have seen some of your training developments - I think this is a great group.

    Michael - glad you got my invite to join Tom's group. I just threw out some ideas in the mix. I am a lowly cog in the system... But many people on here have great ideas... So I am going to watch and learn more than speak in this group... but you should bring in your knowledge as well...

    I can't wait... I am so excited... by this learnin approach...
  • Fabulous Heather Days of Summer

    My district - Fire/Ems is wrapped together - and everyone goes to everything - thus the spin on my comments. But maybe Tom wanted to focus this on Fire Only, not sure?

    Hey I thought of some more training things, I want some discussion on.

    * School emergencies - lock downs, knife fights, school shootings - difference management of a elementary vs. high vs university.

    * Scene safety for psychiatric emergencies

    * Suicide/Attempted Suicide

    * Mental Illness / psychiatric emergency treatment

    * Arsonists

    * (Non-injured) Victim management at fire scenes

    * Animal management / awareness - at fires and medical emergencies

    One of my officers killed a german shepard when he entered a home for a man down, and the german shepard attacked him as he started CPR - my officer punched the dog in the chest as he threw the dog off him - but where he caught the dog was in the solar plexis region which caused the dog's heart to stop. Then we were doing CPR on the dog and the man - sadly both died. My officer was devasted - feeling as though he addressed the dog attacking him too roughly - and he failed to secure the scene before starting patient care.
  • Tom Williams

    Heather, I'm fire with going with borth Fire/EMS. Medical calls is something fire departments are responding to more & more of. Can see you've been busy and putting some serious thought into things here.

    Jump on in and open up some discussions.
  • Fabulous Heather Days of Summer

    Another issue popped in my head...

    * Multiple structures on fire - same scene... Managing each fire... individually and collectively...

    which of course brings up

    * Managing exposure to other structures

    * Managing truck / equipment placement

    I remember at a furniture store fire (the size of a football field) 50% involved - the heat was so hot from the fire - the paint was peeled off several of the trucks on scene.

    * Driver safety

    * PARKING management - negotiating shoulders, soft ground, and other questionable locations

    taking an extra 5-10 minutes to properly place trucks / layout the scene structure - may save A LOT of problems - who is in charge of this - how are decisions made individually and collectively on truck placement
  • Fabulous Heather Days of Summer

    Following you Chief Tom...
  • Firewriter

    Tom, thanks for the invite. Great idea!