hey all i am the training officer for msoa fire rescue and wodering if you can send me a training dvd of the crash rescue drills that your compant dose as i want to adopt a usa fire rescue training program

Has anybody tried useing a method called the oyster cracker? If so how easy and useful is it in the real world? Here is a video clip of this method it in action http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1244719002/bclid1631239873/bctid1870898378

i am wondering if anyone could tell me what they think the best rescue equipment is lucas or halmatro and would anyone be able to send me some of there department patches as i am a collector and i am willing to trade with you

Hi all I am training office for Wrightsville fire Dept. Warren Co.. Hoping to pick up some good info.

hi all members just wondering if your able to send me crash rescue drill dvd as i am the training officer and looking for new ideas let me know

what do yall think about them resQ jacks

I've never used them, but they sure look impressive!

We use resQjacks there quick and easy to use. Verry effective

yea we got some and they are sweet we got to use them on a call to day

hows the hrust tool have yall had any we just got some and i havent got to play with them

The other day we where called into the city for a mva w entrapment. 8 lieut(city) on scene single mva w 1 victim trapped under the front passenger side fender by the head. 8 Lieu. advised us he needs airbags to lift the car, at this time ems still had a faint pulse. We get on scene w our rescue. Immediately our crue went to work. As I was Grabbing the air bags other members were cribbing the car and prepping for the lift. The way the car was angled we used res42cue struts for guarenteed stability. The ground was very uneven. as the airbags were being deployed our Capt. grabbed the 32s(jaws) and lifted the car enough to jerk the victim, once the extracation was completed it was an obvious DOA. The extracation was complete with in 7to10 min. of our arrival.
My reason for writing this is although the airbags was a good call on 8 Lieus. part the jaws where quicker and got the job done. It's alwayse good to think outside the box.

Greetings, This looks like one interesting site, looking for some good idea's.

saw an article in Fire Engineering about placing air bags between the tires and the trailer underside on an 18 wheeler to raise the trailer up a few inches inorder to get a car out from under it. I would like to know more if folks have any particulars such as: how much lift can you get, how well it works, how much lifting force you can get, do you place bags on 1 side or both, do you need 4 bags if both. Anymore info would be helpful as it sounds like a great idea.

hello everyone i am doing a vehicle rescue class now and i am wondering if anyone has any tips for me. lately during class i carry 2 waterbottles in my bunker pants and i still feel like i am going to pass out,i sit for a minute and sometimes it works but i have not passed out yet if anyone has some pointers so that this might not happen any more please let me know

I am so happy, I just completed the Basic Vehicle Rescue class that my company held, and passed the state test. Of the 17 of us who started the class, 4 completed it and took the test, and all 4 passed. But this has made me not only our youngest, but the only female BVR technician in my company!

Hello everyone and greetings from England. Firstly, well done Becky, just remember that you are now up to date with current teachings and some of the older guys might not agree with certain things you might say or do, so be prepared for that. We call it 'road traffic collision' (rtc) over here and I am our rtc instructor for my watch (crew). As being the youngest myself, I got the stubborn ones, but once I showed them the modern way, they soon came around. Good luck girl in your career.

Thanks Wayne =)

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Hello everyone. Looking to find out how many rescue squads use the Amkus rescue system

When we have our fire school we use amkus tools along with 5alarm and onother place here in wisconsin....

is there a reason why in the picture at the top the one guy has no TOG on?

I assume you mean the guy in the green shirt/pants? I believe he was an off duty paramedic who witnessed the incident and is now providing assistance- in this case he's holding an IV bag. I'm not defending him, just stating what I beleive the situation is.

Ok i can under stand that.

Hi everyone, im from a volentter department in ontario canada, looking for tips and methods for different extrication. we have a 17 km stretch of the 401 in our town ship, the 401 is one of canadas buissest highyways
so were out there alot for extrication of cars tractor trailers, and lots of other vehicals.

hi everyone,i'm from serbia and we are have lot of tracfic crash,and much expiriens......i'm profesional firefighter in serbia(europe)

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I would have to say that some of the tactics that could be used more often would have to include B-post roll-downs, roof flaps, third door cuts, and trunk entries. Let me know if you need explanations or ideas for practicing and drilling these.

Lapo

Coolidge, this is a massive issue! Not sure how to get around it though...

Coolidge; you asked this Question: [Do you guys have problems with members who don't want to try new ways "that's not how we use to do it why change']
Over hear we work on the theory of “what is the best practice”
Our Occ Health & Safety rules a lot of what is right for the rescuer, not what he/she rescuer thinks. Some practices have been used for many years but may not be the best practice today. A good example is the dash-roll, you hardly ever see that practice performed these days; rectified by Rams and the Spreader use. Bumming Doors is not a practice we use any longer, as this puts the rescuer at a greater risk of injury and is not classed as a safe practice.
All our practices are Service Orientated; example; you may know how to operate a Chainsaw but without a service qualification/certificate, you will not operate a service Chainsaw until you gain that services or organisations approval or accredited by them. This action not only covers the rescuer but the service provider you are working for. A fallen tree for instance; we can cut it up, trim it and remove it at ground level but no longer can we drop a tree. If dropping a tree is to occur, we have to contact local council/s and have a contractor complete the case.

Intersting that it appears that there is no battery disconneciton on a vehicle that looks like the front end is fully accesible, yet lods of cutting and metal movement has taken place?????

This is the infamous Dayton Ohio Airbag Incident.

If you're not familiar with it, google it, search it- there's loads of learning points....

Well at least the BC guys had their PPE on. It's hard to say when, but the battery either ran out of juice, or was disabled.

I'm still trying to figure what the guy was trying to accomplish with the spreaders between the car and the tree. Trying to move the car, or the tree.

Lutan - the lights on that car went out partt way in? Does seem strange they weren't out from the start.

The other thing that intreged me, is how did that guy keep his helmet on when he was leaning over the patient? With his chinstrap dangling? I know that if my chinstrap isn't on firmly my lid just wants to go exploring!

Oldman I did that an MVA some time ago- the tail lights were almost touching the head lights. TO assist with getting access, we spread off the tree, against the car, then got a ram in and continued the same. THe aim was to straighten the car up a bit and then continue metal movement. Different, but what it needed at the time.

I didn't notice the chin strap Tony, but a good point. Last thing a casualty wants is a 1kg fibreglass brick in the face...

It's possible that the rescue team couldn't get access to the battery due to the hood being jammed or deformed, or both. Our practice is to disconnect the battery whenever it is practical, but we also teach our guys how to extricate safely when we can't disconnect the battery power for some reason.

If you strip the purchase point down to bare metal before using it as a spreader or ram base or prior to cutting, you won't short out a SRS device and have an unintendo deployment.

My department just did a heavy rescue training on a school bus. That was a tough extrication. Those things a built pretty solid. We made some mistakes but we learned a lot and now we know what to do in the field. The emergency window side flat was the toughest part. We had to make several cuts to find the proper place and angle but that is why we train.

Does anyone know the NFPA standard on Vehicle Extrication?

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Got a question for you guys. Last night we rolled on a .5 ton pick up on top of person. Now persons head and hands were stretched out on on side and feet out the oppusite side. person was DOA. Help me with this idea. Truck is upside down and to remove vehicle from person, secure 2 rams on either side of truck bed just behind cab. lift upward. What do you think. I have to do research on this as a next training situation. please help. thanks my bros and sises.

looking for info on terc regional qualifiers for 2011 their website has nothing any info would be appreciated

To all of you we just did the first ever heavy extrication class In Brooklyn Mo. It was very informative and fun. when I get the photo discs I will try and share them. See ya

Russell What we just did in this heavy extrication class was learn how to work side by side with our local wrecker service they should have the equipment to move a vehicle in that position and clear it away from your victim so you can work. You can contact your local wrecker service to see what kind of trucks they have and what they can do..

Hi Marty

Do they use a cover at training for sharp edges like RescueProtectionSet ?

William

ok, thank you Marty, already done

im cert.mva tech. and proud of it and i will keep doing till i cant do it anymore

Hello
does anyone know were i can get a good powerpoint presetation on vehicle stabblization and cribbing?

Thanks

Hey Guys!!!! can someone help me with somo information or somo powerpoints about the basic procedures on Hybrid Vehicles Extrication?...
I´ll really appreciate it!!!!

Thanks,be safe.