1) I just find your idea completely unmanageable and completely unnecessary.
2) Who will pay for the changes and who will enforce this law?
3) On another note, I hope you find someone to spell check your proposal because the paragraph above is full of misspelled words...
The volunteers not needing sirens or 360 lighting varies from state to state. Here in michigan we can have a siren but if we dont no big deal. If we have lights they have to be visible from 360 and we cant have any slick top POV. Must have some form of light on top. Only police can run red/blue comb fire and ems are red and white only.
The issue with the light requirements is who is going to pay for all the police to change over? Also it is a good idea fr the 360 and siren for fire and ems. Also for the purple for funerals good idea for first and last but every 5 cars is going to cost big and not everyone wants to stick a light on their car
So the only changes i would make would be fire and ems run 360 lighting and siren and maybe the permit at state level only and its included with the emergency driving class.
I agree with the EV permit but do you really think it will cut down on the posers? Thats just like any other law if someone wants it they will get it illegal or not. Good thought bad example
See thats where things get tricky sure in NJ police cant run red and blue. But here in Michigan all run red and blue. Up until recently the state police only ran a red bubble top. For police like you are saying helping in other states that makes sense but the cost for every dept to comply would be crazy.
If I remember what US DOT tried to do in the 70s was to say that ambulances would be white with a orange strip, police cars white with blue strips and fire engines would be lime yellow with white strips. Now lights for police cars would be all blue and ambulances have white and blue lights and fire engines white and red.
As to what you have today I say nothing went that way because the states want things their way or everyone in emergency service backed away from it or just wanted to stay with what they had.
The state of Maryland allowed blue lights for volunteers POVs up to the 70s and then that changed. No lights on a vol POV unless you are a officer in the dept and then they said red and white only. The police depending on what county you are in blue or red and blue.
Green on the books was for taxi cabs for cab robberies or emergency help, but the emergency service set them up for command post locations.
Funeral home then started using purple lights after using amber for sometime.
Now have heard of states that make emergency providers or responders get stickers and license to have emergency lights or sirens on their vehicles. I had a uncle in Ohio that had to do that after he joined.
I think its best to leave to the states and the counties to decide what to do about lights and what.
Well, first off, way to spur a conversation here, although it does consist of another lighting topic....but credit for taking it a different direction.
Now, why the reason for this proposal? Why are you wanting to make this a national issue?
IMHO, there is no reason for a national light law, the states have things set up their way. If the reason is because of experiences you may have seen during Sandy, and interstate agencies working together, I ask what does it matter? If your dept is asked to cross the border, then you go in your rigs.
When it comes to lights on a POV, I disagree with the concept as it is, but that is another discussion. So when it comes to lights on a POV, why should this be a national regulation?
In my view, there is no reason to be running lights on a POV outside of one's state anyway. If your dept is close enough to a state border where you routinely cross for mutual aid, etc, you should be crossing in the dept vehicles. If you don't make it to the station to make it out on a rig, then drive without your lights. There are enough studies out there that show lights and sirens don't make a significant impact on response times. Besides, if the rig left without you, that means you aren't that important that you need to run lights on your POV into another state.
I encourage you to spend time researching case law regarding each state. I can speak specifically for Missouri; Missouri says volunteers run blue on povs, every other emergency vehicle runs red. So simply by statute that's how it reads. Attorney General has clarified several times over case law, any combination is good for any vehicle that falls under the statutes (which includes tow).
Ok let me clarify that a bit. In Michigan police are the only one allowed to run a blue light. Every other emergency vehicle (fire, ems, volly fire POV) can only run red/white. If you are caught with a working blue light you are considered to be impersonating a police officer and thats not a nice charge. And I think its Indiana where volly fire POV can have blue. So it varies from state to state and as said before would be too costly to mandate every dept. in the country to change.
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National Emergency Light Law. Great Idea. This should be. That way light color would be the same everywhere. Good Bill to bring up.