Lightweight construction dangers - My Firefighter Nation2024-03-29T14:38:39Zhttps://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/889755:Topic:470476?commentId=889755%3AComment%3A471541&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe weather at this incident…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-12-05:889755:Comment:60990092011-12-05T02:50:27.484ZJoe Stoltzhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/NewYork99
<div><p>The weather at this incident was cold, cold, cold. Temperature was in the low teens (F) and it did not take too long for everything to freeze up.</p>
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<p>The top picture is taken to the road and we will call the road side of the structure Side 1. The middle picture is the 1-2 corner and in the center is what was left of the small overhang that was above the entrance door. to the left and below this overhang is the garage area with what is left of the house in it. There was also…</p>
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<div><p>The weather at this incident was cold, cold, cold. Temperature was in the low teens (F) and it did not take too long for everything to freeze up.</p>
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<p>The top picture is taken to the road and we will call the road side of the structure Side 1. The middle picture is the 1-2 corner and in the center is what was left of the small overhang that was above the entrance door. to the left and below this overhang is the garage area with what is left of the house in it. There was also a car in that pile.</p>
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<p>Picture 3 shows the opening in side 2 where the overhead door was. Note where the snow (about 4" accumulation) was melted from the radiant heat.</p>
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<a href="http://commandsafety.com/2009/12/truss-and-engineered-systems-placards/" target="_blank">http://commandsafety.com/2009/12/truss-and-engineered-systems-placards/</a> Looks like you saved the foun…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-04-11:889755:Comment:56209392011-04-11T14:25:28.338ZTyler Lyonshttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/TylerLyons
Looks like you saved the foundation... if everyone went home safely, you did your job!
Looks like you saved the foundation... if everyone went home safely, you did your job! Our last major fire was a bar…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-04-11:889755:Comment:56209782011-04-11T11:32:58.335ZMichael Ahttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/MichaelAmlotte
Our last major fire was a barn. In the middle of the night and it was a cedar furniture workshop...yes fun fun. Oh and I'm in Northern Michigan so the outside temp -32F with the wind chill. I literally was frozen to the hose. I had a good 1/2 inch of ice build up on my gear. We had to leave all the hoses running water whether in use or not.
Our last major fire was a barn. In the middle of the night and it was a cedar furniture workshop...yes fun fun. Oh and I'm in Northern Michigan so the outside temp -32F with the wind chill. I literally was frozen to the hose. I had a good 1/2 inch of ice build up on my gear. We had to leave all the hoses running water whether in use or not. You mentioned meth lab above,…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-04-11:889755:Comment:56210612011-04-11T10:32:51.656ZSpanner 122https://my.firefighternation.com/profile/Spanner122
You mentioned meth lab above, is that what this was? That was a lot of flame and black smoke, looked really hot.<br />
We have had fire after fire in our area over the last couple of months. The worst was balloon construction with light weight add ons. Needless to say, even with 100 firefighters, plus, on scene and a 6th alarm, we still lost half a block. Balloon is tough enough at times, but at least you have a little time to find it and knock it down. The light weight garbage just kept adding…
You mentioned meth lab above, is that what this was? That was a lot of flame and black smoke, looked really hot.<br />
We have had fire after fire in our area over the last couple of months. The worst was balloon construction with light weight add ons. Needless to say, even with 100 firefighters, plus, on scene and a 6th alarm, we still lost half a block. Balloon is tough enough at times, but at least you have a little time to find it and knock it down. The light weight garbage just kept adding fuel.<br />
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I think sprinklers are a good idea, BUT, if the money was spent on better construction maybe they wouldn't be needed in residential buildings?? Hard to say? I've getting tired of being pulled out of houses because the floors collapse in minutes! House prices are about the sa…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-04-11:889755:Comment:56209672011-04-11T10:27:42.650ZSpanner 122https://my.firefighternation.com/profile/Spanner122
House prices are about the same here, but I'm sure car prices are relatively the same everywhere. Unless you're talking about what is parked in these over priced driveways?
House prices are about the same here, but I'm sure car prices are relatively the same everywhere. Unless you're talking about what is parked in these over priced driveways? Please use these three phot…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-04-11:889755:Comment:56208572011-04-11T07:01:50.729ZMike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retdhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/CaptainBusy
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Please use these three photos to provide additional comments and lessons learned.
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Please use these three photos to provide additional comments and lessons learned. tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-04-11:889755:Comment:56207702011-04-11T07:00:46.875ZMike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retdhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/CaptainBusy
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<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1923084508?profile=original" alt=""/></p> and the fact that you fough…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2011-04-11:889755:Comment:56209532011-04-11T06:59:59.191ZMike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retdhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/CaptainBusy
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and the fact that you fought this fire in the snow was never mentioned... like this is no big deal? geez... talk about adding a ton of complicating factors. it's bad enough to have the structure fire but to add snow, cold weather and an early morning response makes it all that much more daunting.<br />
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Note: My world for the most part does not include this thing you call snow. It's more like the one below (not your kind of snow, just meth lab snow),…
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and the fact that you fought this fire in the snow was never mentioned... like this is no big deal? geez... talk about adding a ton of complicating factors. it's bad enough to have the structure fire but to add snow, cold weather and an early morning response makes it all that much more daunting.<br />
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CBz<br />
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Note: My world for the most part does not include this thing you call snow. It's more like the one below (not your kind of snow, just meth lab snow), which means I have tremendous respect for anyone who has to deal with cold weather snow and firefighting.<br />
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