Hey all, does anyone know of any brigade (world wide if need be) that have sucessfully applied CAFS in urban firefighting?

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It's great quick knock down with less hose weight but if your structure is on the ground already it doesn't have enough water in the foam to cool through the roof.
Thank you for your reply. Would you happen to know of any fire department that employs cafs on their urban pampers?
AI believe that the city of Tulsa, Oklahoma is starting to put some into use. What questions do you have maybe I can answer them for you? Also just about any city in Texas uses cafs.
Honestly I'd like to know all the pros and cons regarding cafs in the urban environment. How long has the cafs been used in urban firefighting, what does the new urban pampers look like and what additional training is required? Basically I'd like to gather all info I can so I can write a paper for my brigade because I think that we should be looking at cafs not just in bush firefighting.
WELL FOR RESIDENTIAL IT's great quick knock down, with low hose weight so less firefighter fatigue, even in a attic the piercing nozzle it really works well. The only draw backs that I can tell is the cost because a hale foam logic system cost about 30,000 but it's a really good system, and if you think about it the truck it's on will do the work of about three, the other drawback is that in very large fire load situations (such as wear house fires.) the foam doesn't have enough water in it to cool it down. As far as training goes not much is required it easy to grasp it's more of a mentality change for your driver not pull the pre-connect nob every time you pull up. One other ting is there is a lot less water damage to the resident. Good news is that most of your newer pampers are already set up for a cafs compressor and even some of the older ones ( we have a 86 e-one that we retro fitted for cafs and work great. I hope this helps.
G'day mate, yeah this will help me, than you. Does your department have any reports on CAFS in structural firefighting that I may look at??

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I'll see if i can't hunt some up

Thank you

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