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Permalink Reply by rfdjumper on October 28, 2008 at 8:01pm

1. No
2. No
3. Don't Touch, Breathe or Eat the stuff
4. Yeah Right
5. I'd imagine since it is an inhalation hazard, SCBA, at a minimum, We don't have a policy
6a. We only have brooms, or a gross decon available at our scenes
6b. We have gear extractors, or professional cleaning available.

Heck.... we have Asbestos in at least one fire station that I know of. Moral of the story is don't F#ck with the stuff if it is still intact.

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Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on November 2, 2008 at 1:35pm

Asbestos, the almighty cancer causing bad crap. They have asbestos insulation, siding and a variety of other nasty stuff. Asbestos is a nasty creation that has caused numerous cases of Mesothelioma in people who have had very little exposure as well as those who have had a lot of exposure. Asbestos (when viewed under a microscope) is unlike fiberglass. Fiberglass strands are straight. They do some damage to tissue and the lungs if proper protection isn't used. Asbestos is shaped more like a fishing hook and it embeds into the soft tissue of your lungs and thorax systems.

Here is a website which shows exposure routes (most common)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.indoorquality.org...

Asbestos fibers shown here.



Asbestos pipe insulation. Note that it is wrapped in fiberglass. (without resin) The elbows will have a look that appears more like plaster used on walls.



Note the cooregated material. This is used on roofing applications and is asbestos.


In this picture you will note the house has asbestos siding. Note the missing tile. These tiles are generally around 2 feet wide and to Hellen Keller would appear as wood shingles. These shingles can be flat on bottom OR could appear as though they have a wave type pattern on bottom. These shatter easily with little impact.



My grandfather died from Mesothelioma. (lung cancer) His was caused by working in a textile mill which was riddled with Asbestos. No matter how much of it was covered with the fiberglass, he was exposed to the general break down and bumping of the pipes with lifts, towing trucks (for the boxes of fabris) the roof leaking (causing degeneration of the insulation barrier) and working on the sprinkler system. (yes some of it was insulated with asbestos)

Rule number 1. If it doesn't appear to have a broken barrier, LEAVE IT ALONE!!! DON'T direct hose streams onto asbestos wrapped pipes if you can do so.
Rule number 2. Treat it like a hazardous material that it is. Don't be next to it, don't disrupt it, and don't stand in it if it has fallen.
Rule number 3. If you have been contaminated, a automatic gross decon should be done WITH a brush down to hopefully grab as many of the particulates as possible. This should only be done by personnel in a minimum of a tyvek suit with SCBA (taped off) and boots and gloves on. (all rubber) The tyvek suit would get thrown away and the rest (being rubber) would be easily cleaned. I would NOT wear the other PPE that was grossly deconned until it was given a chance to be bagged and sent to be fully cleaned by a professional gear company. (the particles are bad stuff and will embed in your turnout until fully cleaned)

Asbestos siding, and asbestos on roofing applications is also something which is common to find on the fire scene. If at all possible before starting the saw to make a cut, use a flathead ax OR a sledgehammer end and break the siding/roofing material up. This will cause a lot less fibers to go airborn. Using the saw you will create a fine powder and it will go airborn much more readily.

All is not lost but always ensure you CYA. (cover your ass!!) Fill out exposure reports for ANY and ALL personnel involved at ANY incident involving asbestos. This will make sure that ANY of the firefighters on scene exposed to asbestos would be covered by their insurance should Mesothelioma start showing up down the road.

Be smart, train often, and stay safe.

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Permalink Reply by Gilles Dionne on June 21, 2010 at 11:01pm

Hy,in our hall, there is no policies for asbestos, an i took a few pictures for you of a asbestos mine nearby.

in the first pic, you can see my car in front of a 200 tons truck.
the second pic, it's me in a shovell

last pic, are asbestos fiber in there natural place.

you just seen the mine itself, in the next if you take a close look you will see som véhicule in the mine.

my brother, father and grand-father, workted in that mine avd no one get mesothelioma or anything directly link with asbestos.
in the last 100 years on 2 mine close by approximatelly 30 case disease were recorded and all where heavy smokers.
also in the decade 1970 in the mill, workers innalate 600 fibres per square inches of air, they fix in in the 80's with the recommandation of la commission de la santé et sécurité du travail du Québec (the same as the OSHA)

the advise of ingeineco913 are wright, use scba, breake tile d'ont sand it, and clean your gear, but do not be affraed of it.

that was a personnal oppinion and i did not made loys of researtch so my record can be a litle offset.

Be safe
Gilles

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