Well we have gone back and fourth on this around the fire house about safty glasses requeirede on the fire scene. Personaly I do agree to a point we should wear them exp. ems, extercation or overhauling where thiers a change of getthing something in your eyes. but going inside for a alarm off or working on a fire ground it's pain in the ass to were them. We been told it is osha violation if we doin't where them I do understand in some buissness it can be of what their doing thier but not for us so much I don't think I have ever seen any other company where them before. I'm looking for some input if anyone eles requires it and if it is true about osha or any other agenices requirements to wearing them.
It would depends on the enviroment you were entering, that company's policy, and your department SOP's and SOG's. There is no OSHA requirement saying you have to wear safety glasses at every type of call.
Since I wear glasses anyways, I have some amount of built-in eye protection - or so I thought. Until some years ago, when I got a cinder in my eye while working at a chimney fire. I was on the roof and the wind was kind of swirling, and the cinder got behind my glasses and... a trip to the doctor two days later and a lesson learned.
I have Ess goggles now on my helmet and I think these are the only real eye protection. The glasses some of my comrades wear meet ANSI standards but in my opinion won't keep cinders or other stuff out.
In the long run it's better to be safe than sorry, whether or not OSHA mandates them.
Your face shield is considered a secondary means of eye protection. Safety glasses should be worn as you say while doing auto extrication or operating saws, tools and power equipment without your SCBA mask on. As far as wearing them to general alarm activations I know of no department that does that.
Took the words right out of my mouth, I generally have sunglasses or other eyewear handy (I have Oakley eyewear, it's ANSI rated). I can't say whether I've heard that there is an actual rule/regulation/law saying that you have to wear safety glasses.
Brother, it takes less than it takes less time than for you to blink your eye to lose your eye!
How hard is it to slip a pair of Safety specs on when you get in the cab for a non-emergency call? Most nowdays are pretty fashionable and look like Oakleys, only with clear lenes...some even are Oakleys.
Even routine, non-emergency calls go bad sometimes, and when they do you don't have time to put them on.
I'm currently in the Army, and even though I'm not stationed in Iraq where bombs go off all the time, we're all getting in the habit of wearing them with our gear. Just like buckling-up when you get in the rig, once you're in the habit you don't even think about it anymore - you just do it.
How do you know the alarm panel won't short when you open the box? How do you know you won't find something unexpected on a routine call, or a public assist? Does the owner's son have a meth lab hidden in his closet where the breaker panel is? You just don't know, so why not wear the spiffy eye guards and retire with your eyeballs intact?
IF your department or company sees the need for FFs to wear them in your district, then what's the harm in doing it? Put in an SOP and move on to harder issues, or do a crew drill.
On every call, all the time? No, that does not seem necessary, but of course it depends on your department's SOP/SOG. Instead of arguing it back and forth, is there not a reference somewhere for you to know for sure, or maybe a Safety Officer with the department can clear it up for you. I will wear them on an EMS call (might take them off, depending on what's going on), extrication, on the fire ground I will use my visor when operating the chainsaw, using my axe or breaking windows (from the outside of course, inside I would be wearing SCBA), for overhaul, I'm on air... it's free, no pesky glasses required.
That being said, I have a pair in one of my pockets at all times incase they are required at a scene when you wouldn't expect them to be required.
Clearly, as noted, I wear them until not needed and keep them with me as a just in case. Very rarely do I need to be wearing safety glasses to an alarm at a commercial highrise downtown... lol... Not sure how this is the other end of the spectrum... sounds like we're sitting side by side at the same end!
We wear SCBA's to an alarm activation as is. If the crap hits the fan, safety glasses would be the least of our worries as we would have full facial protection with the mask. To play the devils advocate wearing safety glasses to every call because you never know, would that mean wearing a SCBA and breathing air because you never know? I keep the glasses in the coat until needed
I did say on "Even routine, non-emergency calls" such as Public-Assistance calls, etc. Might not be a bad idea during some inspections and preplan visits...depending on the type of occupancy, cleanliness, etc...
But I'm a Safety Officer and wearing a pair of $5 glasses will save your eyes if something totally unexpected happens. IMHO it's not only our job to make sure everyone goes home, but also to make sure everyone goes home with all of their digits, limbs, hearing and eyesight intact. Especially if the prevention is as cheap and easy to use as safety glasses. We can't avoid every hazard, but we can mitigate the effects if something unexpected happens.
We wear our SCBA's as well, but the facepieces are not on when responding to alarms, I assume this is what you mean. It's only common sense to have the pack on and be ready. I have never entered a building for any kind of fire call (alarm, smell of smoke, etc), or CO call or gas leak call, etc without my pack on, it's actually an SOP and common sense.
As for glasses, they are always in my pocket, on for med calls and extrication, but always on hand because you never know what you're going to encounter.