100ft length attack hose vs 50ft lengths?? - My Firefighter Nation2024-03-29T15:26:44Zhttps://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/100ft-length-attack-hose-vs-50ft-lengths?commentId=889755%3AComment%3A6601805&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAs I said from the beginning,…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-03-16:889755:Comment:66020022017-03-16T03:53:34.803ZAndrewhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/Andrew60
As I said from the beginning, I'm looking for a discussion. Pros and cons. I appreciate Don chiming in and I respect him bowing out. 100' lengths of 1.75",2.5 and 3" have their plus and minus. I feel rolling these lengths and moving them poses back issues and as attack line have their issues as well. My department has decided to change to 50' lengths and now I have no further discussion. Thanks to all that contributed. I did not look to be sided with just an outsiders look for the greater of…
As I said from the beginning, I'm looking for a discussion. Pros and cons. I appreciate Don chiming in and I respect him bowing out. 100' lengths of 1.75",2.5 and 3" have their plus and minus. I feel rolling these lengths and moving them poses back issues and as attack line have their issues as well. My department has decided to change to 50' lengths and now I have no further discussion. Thanks to all that contributed. I did not look to be sided with just an outsiders look for the greater of the good. Everyone out there be safe. God bless. I'm out. I think you really…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-03-16:889755:Comment:66018112017-03-16T03:40:22.550ZDon Catenaccihttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/DonCatenacci
<p>I'm out. I think you really are looking for people to agree with you and not actually discuss this. Good luck.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/100ft-length-attack-hose-vs-50ft-lengths#889755Comment6601805"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is…</div>
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<p>I'm out. I think you really are looking for people to agree with you and not actually discuss this. Good luck.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/100ft-length-attack-hose-vs-50ft-lengths#889755Comment6601805"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury from carrying roll a 100 ft of 2.5.</div>
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Haven't left,…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-03-15:889755:Comment:66017252017-03-15T12:32:24.129Zcaptnjakhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/JohnMurphy632
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Andrew said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/100ft-length-attack-hose-vs-50ft-lengths#889755Comment6601805"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury…</div>
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<blockquote cite="http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/100ft-length-attack-hose-vs-50ft-lengths#889755Comment6601805"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury from carrying roll a 100 ft of 2.5.</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated">Do you do a lot of standpipe work? I could see those 100 footers getting real heavy real fast.</div>
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</blockquote> Haven't left, just waiting fo…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-03-15:889755:Comment:66018052017-03-15T12:00:11.545ZAndrewhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/Andrew60
Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury from carrying roll a 100 ft of 2.5.
Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury from carrying roll a 100 ft of 2.5. So Andrew, have you left this…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-03-01:889755:Comment:66009812017-03-01T22:22:50.920ZDon Catenaccihttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/DonCatenacci
<p>So Andrew, have you left this topic? I was hoping for a lively discussion.<br/><br/>Maybe you didn't get the support you were hoping for so you left.</p>
<p>So Andrew, have you left this topic? I was hoping for a lively discussion.<br/><br/>Maybe you didn't get the support you were hoping for so you left.</p> Don Catenacci said:
Don C…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-02-27:889755:Comment:66006362017-02-27T16:54:45.988Zcaptnjakhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/JohnMurphy632
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Don Catenacci said:</cite></p>
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<blockquote cite="http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/100ft-length-attack-hose-vs-50ft-lengths#889755Comment6600411"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><br/> <br/> <cite>Don Catenacci said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/comment/show?id=889755%3AComment%3A6600522&xn_out=json&firstPage=1&lastPage=1&xg_token=aa8d51664a84712f3a32fcdd725fc60d&_=1488165826519#889755Comment6600522"></blockquote>
<br/> Andrew, just screams back injury? Do you use 4 or 5 inch hose because even a 50 foot length of that will weigh more than 100 feet of 2 1/2. The weight of 2 1/2 inch hose varies from around .40 to .55 per foot. Meaning a 100 foot length weighs between 40 and 55 pounds, now add probably 5 pounds for the couplings.<br/> <br/> In 40 years as a firefighter I can tell you I have never had to re-orient myself on a hose line. I suppose it could happen tomorrow. I am curious though, how many times have you had to do it in your career?<br/> <br/> What's the real reason you don't like it?</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated">Knowing how to use couplings as a direction indicator is a definite tool in the toolbox. But I don't think I've ever heard of someone actually doing it. We have search ropes, TIC, other team members, etc. to help get us out.</div>
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Andr…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-02-27:889755:Comment:66004112017-02-27T03:29:52.243ZDon Catenaccihttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/DonCatenacci
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Andrew, just screams back injury? Do you use 4 or 5 inch hose because even a 50 foot length of that will weigh more than 100 feet of 2 1/2. The weight of 2 1/2 inch hose varies from…
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Andrew, just screams back injury? Do you use 4 or 5 inch hose because even a 50 foot length of that will weigh more than 100 feet of 2 1/2. The weight of 2 1/2 inch hose varies from around .40 to .55 per foot. Meaning a 100 foot length weighs between 40 and 55 pounds, now add probably 5 pounds for the couplings.<br />
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In 40 years as a firefighter I can tell you I have never had to re-orient myself on a hose line. I suppose it could happen tomorrow. I am curious though, how many times have you had to do it in your career?<br />
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What's the real reason you don't like it? tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-02-27:889755:Comment:66005222017-02-27T03:23:44.421ZDon Catenaccihttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/DonCatenacci
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<p></p> Just heavier to roll, we have…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-02-25:889755:Comment:66005612017-02-25T01:42:24.602ZAndrewhttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/Andrew60
Just heavier to roll, we have it in 2 1/2 and it just screams back injury. Dangerous because if you get lost and use the hose to orient...it will take you a lot longer to figure out you're going the wrong way by feel of the coupling.
Just heavier to roll, we have it in 2 1/2 and it just screams back injury. Dangerous because if you get lost and use the hose to orient...it will take you a lot longer to figure out you're going the wrong way by feel of the coupling. Dangerous and super heavy? A…tag:my.firefighternation.com,2017-02-25:889755:Comment:66005582017-02-25T01:38:05.746ZDon Catenaccihttps://my.firefighternation.com/profile/DonCatenacci
<p>Dangerous and super heavy? Are you kidding? A 100 foot section of hose weights less than 2 - 50s because of 1 less set of couplings.<br></br><br></br>The benefits are it is cheaper than 2 - 50 foot lengths and there is one less set of couplings to snag on objects interior.<br></br><br></br>My FD uses 100 foot lengths of 2 inch in our 200 and 300 foot pre-connects and there have been no complaints at all about it.</p>
<p>How about this guess on my part. The Chief made this decision and you guys don't like…</p>
<p>Dangerous and super heavy? Are you kidding? A 100 foot section of hose weights less than 2 - 50s because of 1 less set of couplings.<br/><br/>The benefits are it is cheaper than 2 - 50 foot lengths and there is one less set of couplings to snag on objects interior.<br/><br/>My FD uses 100 foot lengths of 2 inch in our 200 and 300 foot pre-connects and there have been no complaints at all about it.</p>
<p>How about this guess on my part. The Chief made this decision and you guys don't like that he didn't ask you first.</p>